Electric scooters may not be around for long…

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Electric scooters have been one of the biggest tech crazes of the last year, with venture capitalists pouring more than $1 billion into the startups. But the fundamental numbers don’t add up because the scooters don’t bring in enough money to cover their costs. If the business continues on its current path, the scooter hype might be short-lived.
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The Verge
The Verge 2 महीने पहले
How do you feel about having scooters in your city/town?
Hayden 10 घंटे पहले
I don’t have them in my town
Jonathan Michel
Jonathan Michel 23 घंटे पहले
We don't have scooters yet (Frankfurt) but I think it's a fair point you made. I actually like riding them but it doesn't seem to be sustainable.
Tom Deangleballz
Tom Deangleballz 2 दिन पहले
@MgaKabit NgXinpu you gave me a headache with your comment
Compuguy123 - Ghetto Mods/Gameplay
Compuguy123 - Ghetto Mods/Gameplay 7 घंटे पहले
Lithium fevers got me down ~
Helaman Gile
Helaman Gile 10 घंटे पहले
I rode my scooter for nearly 9 years and only had to replace the battery twice I rode it almost everyday for about 20 miles to work
Timotheus157 23 घंटे पहले
Personally owned electric vehicles, which includes scooters is the way to go. Using Bird as an example is specific and foolish at best. Not good research.
XxKazxX xoxo
XxKazxX xoxo दिन पहले
Hmmm on average if a person travels for 60min of commute that’s $10 on a single day... that’s way more than what i pay for UberPool which is ($7) and ridiculous surge price of $15-$30 for reg UberX... why would I pay $10 for a scooter ride than a UberPool ride? The answer is i wouldn’t... I remember one day waking up so late like 20mins before i start my shift late that i almost had a panic attack. I grabbed UberX and noticed it was a whoppping $23 and I’m like WTF... i would’nt be surprised all these electric scooters will do the same in a few months when they see more and more people using them... i feel bad for teens 17 and under who can’t use it lol, sorry kids u can have those Trix 😂 cause E-Scooters are for adults only
Jnard Lou Benz
Jnard Lou Benz दिन पहले
How sad Americans taking for granted the use of scooter. Dumping scooters in the river? Really?. Americans are Barbarric
Malte Hoffmann
Malte Hoffmann दिन पहले
Just recently it became legal to ride those scooters in Germany. You "only" need an insurance for it to be legal.
Junito Punto Comm
Junito Punto Comm दिन पहले
It’s NOT the Scooters that Won’t last...It’s The Companies !!
Henri McKeown
Henri McKeown 2 दिन पहले
No scooters in Boston 😀
Paul Chen
Paul Chen 2 दिन पहले
the only people making good money off this are the scooter manufacturers, not the platforms. Like Uber, the business model of Bird is not sustainable nor are they profitable.
flitsies 2 दिन पहले
Perhaps if they had a better repair system that was more cost effective that would negate the damage being done to the scooters. Instead of tossing out old motors recycle them and put them back into another scooter. In the UK these types of scooters are not legal to dump on the side of the road, so they are being hired out to individuals presumably per day. That makes more sense, hire the scooters out to individuals per day or week that way they take responsibility for the scooters. The UK has a hiring service for bikes, the dump them on the side of the road system does not do too well, however the docking put them back in a responsible location method works very well. The idea of hiring scooters and bikes is a good one but the companies do need to take responsibility for the way they operate, if you hired a car you could just dump it on the side of the road and walk away, you have specific locations or areas you can legally put the car so it makes sense. People will always take advantage of things if you simply allow them to, but put in some simple rules and most people will comply if the service is good, if not then you end up with problems.
shapes 2 दिन पहले
this means there gonna make the perfect scooter one day that you might just be able to buy
tomalba7 2 दिन पहले
Number one get better scooters number two quit charging a dollar to start... I'll pay a lot more to drive a decent scooter maybe even 25 bucks
sadman hoque
sadman hoque 2 दिन पहले
Wall Street geniuses would rather pour billions into upstart ideas that *might* become a big deal than pay livable wages so their employees can spend more. go figure
Jordan Rivas
Jordan Rivas 2 दिन पहले
Put a camera on the scooter so any vandalism done end up charging the person's debit card
cindy chan
cindy chan 2 दिन पहले
i wish london had electric scooters, i saw them all over in stockholm. wondering whether to buy one myself, or a kick scooter
Panic The Scholar Knight.
Panic The Scholar Knight. 2 दिन पहले
I bet a good deal of the reason scooters aren't lasting is because dickwads in big cities don't care about what they don't own and of course abuse it.
tom keane
tom keane 2 दिन पहले
Imagine what would happen if someone made an open source modularised electric scooter and funded it by presales like a crowd funding site.
willysnowman 2 दिन पहले
Francis Fascination gave me one, but the battery is dead. How easy is it to steal a battery?
Sean Sullivan
Sean Sullivan 2 दिन पहले
Once people realize they can buy their own (where they know it hasnt been abused, etc) for less than half the cost of an iphone ...IDK why you'd rent. Even not folded up its extremely portable. much easier than lugging a bicycle around.
Yariv Wolok
Yariv Wolok 3 दिन पहले
So what? They’re insured. Why would they care? Also completely solvable problem....but okay. And cars have massive problems, bikes, etc...I guess we can ignore those though.
benn zhong
benn zhong 3 दिन पहले
so typical that ride sharing scooters were rebranded china scooters like the ride sharing bike crazed that has been dead bcos of the poor quality material used and being abused, or locked up by selfish users, the lock being removed or thrown away because people already have bikes that are foldable and portable...so its no surprise that with this new craze people will lose interest and starts abusing them, the fact it came from china is no shocker....most of the times its the case of you get what you paid for...
JOUE BIEN TECH 3 दिन पहले
Has any one done a study on how log the helmets last? If I had a dollar for every abandoned lime helmet I've seen in Brisbane I'd be a millionaire.
Fruit Based Homestead Jason Kvestad
Fruit Based Homestead Jason Kvestad 3 दिन पहले
Two simple yet ignored aspects are, Recycling and repairing. This video is overly dramatic.
Lindalee Law
Lindalee Law 4 दिन पहले
Those using them,,at least in Denver, disregard and road , street or sidewalk laws. I fully intend to stand my ground the next time.
ucheucheuche 4 दिन पहले
There's a new company called Unicorn scooters, pitching themselves as a stronger longer lasting scooter.
Bill Carson
Bill Carson 2 दिन पहले
Sounds like a big problem if you run into someone.
Diego 4 दिन पहले
For sure this companies has insurance to protect the scooters.
Marcos Rivera
Marcos Rivera 4 दिन पहले
Completely ignores the fact that every user and trip is creating an amazing amount to market data, travel paterns and SELLABLE algorithms of the community it serves. THAT is the most profitable/sellable part, user data!
Michael Anderson
Michael Anderson 4 दिन पहले
I like escooter share as a consumer it will move the technology faster and drive down the cost of ownership in the future
Michael Anderson
Michael Anderson 4 दिन पहले
I have Razor e prime scooter and I can't ride it for now because Wisconsin over reacted to bird and lime and ban all escooters from roads and sidewalks
Sapper T
Sapper T 5 दिन पहले
This is what happens when it’s not yours and there is no accountability. Not rocket science.
Won't see me coming
Won't see me coming 5 दिन पहले
Rideshare scooter it works in other nations, but in the US may not last due, most riders lack of consideration to pedestrians , riders are overweight, so scooter gets maxed out in capacity, and range, roads are in poor conditions. There is too many factor that is designed to fail in the US, meanwhile thrives in others Nation, France, Germany, Spain, Netherlands, Holland, Etc.
Otro Pl4n
Otro Pl4n 6 दिन पहले
Thanks to all the scoters who have thrown in the lakes and the lack of respect for the environment by the Americans is that so many natural catastrophes are occurring in that country. They are not as smart as they appear to be.
DeWayne Hasty
DeWayne Hasty 6 दिन पहले
I'm here in San Diego for a work trip with two co-workers. We rode the scooters the first day we got here just for some fun. But now we've been riding them every day sometimes displacing driving a car sometimes displacing walking. but we agree this is definitely a mode of transportation. I hope the cities figure out how to incorporate them.
rick berland
rick berland 6 दिन पहले
Its about the data they collect from users...
Mike H
Mike H 9 दिन पहले
Electric scooters seem better as personally owned items to replace bikes for shorter trips, not for ridesharing, especially when the average person today doesn't seem to care for shared property.
Shaun G
Shaun G 11 दिन पहले
I feel like they’re lowballing the cost of use a bit here in Minneapolis. It costs you about $10/hr to ride a scooter but I can’t really see people riding to where they need to be for even more than 30 minutes. They should charge $10/ 30 minutes and take it from there.
Amos Moses
Amos Moses 11 दिन पहले
*"I just don't think that the future should be scootin' mmk"*
Damian Acevedo
Damian Acevedo 11 दिन पहले
mmm this is where all cocaine money is going xD
mathieu 12 दिन पहले
- Too fast for sidewalks, too slow for bike lanes (and streets) - No effective emergency braking There's no planned place for them to be. In other words, they're a nuisance at best and a danger at worst. Essentially, they make being a pedestrian, a bicyclist and a car driver more difficult and more dangerous. In the case of pedestrians and bicyclists, who are more apt to be discouraged, the goal of making transportation more sustainable is a failure.
Miluriel 10 दिन पहले
They are a lot less dangerous than cars, and we still make those work. There's no planned place for scooters (and often enough bikes) yet. If people stop driving cars and start riding scooters and bikes, cities will start making place for them.
Donkens 12 दिन पहले
raise your finger to the haters, scooters rise up!
Mark Brand
Mark Brand 13 दिन पहले
“If ridesharing keeps being unsustainable it will be unsustainable”
Hunter Tanner
Hunter Tanner 13 दिन पहले
What about citi bikes
David Miracle
David Miracle 14 दिन पहले
It'a for certain that one person driving a 3000 pound gasoline powered vehicle on a 6 mile round trip to the grocery store to purchase a six pack of diet soda, is something that needs to be phased out. California now has over 40 million inhabitants, with more people pouring into the state as each passing winter disgusts people in the East with the changing weather. Grid lock now exists on the freeways in Los Angeles and San Francisco. Scooters and electric bikes don't need to be phased out...the individually owned car and truck does.
TheENofficial 14 दिन पहले
I just bought my own
MDizzy 14 दिन पहले
These should be designed so that they are foldable and stackable so they have a smaller footprint when they are parked in droves.
richard roberson
richard roberson 14 दिन पहले
why would anyone want a scooter when FSD is out. so in 10 years tops this is meh?
Jason H
Jason H 14 दिन पहले
I don’t understand why scooters didn’t follow the same model as bicycles where you have to put it back in a stable so you don’t get charged too much money.
Pantsu God
Pantsu God 14 दिन पहले
I'd never even heard of e scooters until today.
Chris 15 दिन पहले
I want them all to disappear. That goes for the people who run the companies as well.
David Miracle
David Miracle 14 दिन पहले
That's because you have no vision of the future.
Robert Taylor
Robert Taylor 15 दिन पहले
The problem isn't the lifespan of the scooter the problem is that cities are beginning to regulate them into non-existence because of nuisance operators. The biggest fear of these companies should be how to exist in a city when even most skateboarders cannot.
Zack Richland
Zack Richland 15 दिन पहले
Buy a Vengatti.
Micah Vincent
Micah Vincent 16 दिन पहले
More about scooter Sharing than the scooter themselves
Michael Panarella
Michael Panarella 17 दिन पहले
They are a virus and need more regulation. At the very least a centralized parking location like other programs (CitiBike and Capital Bikeshare).
Victor Treptow
Victor Treptow 17 दिन पहले
Where did they get this $500~ per scooter figure from? There is no chance bird is paying that much per unit, it’s probably closer to 100-200 considering the size of their bulk orders
Nicolas Gomez
Nicolas Gomez 17 दिन पहले
Here in my city (bogota, co) everyone uses them more as.... a bike replacement or just to have fun arround the park and stuff, no one wears a helmet, I’ve almost been struck by a scooter twice, and they are never where you need them, you scarcely see them near the bus or transit stations, but there are a bunch parked near coworking places and restaurants. And I don’t know how they keep them in good contition, and how do they handle theft cuz crime and theft are a HUGE problem here so hey..... its even impressive seeing lime scooters here. (To we also have two other scooters that apparently are national, grin and movo (correct me if I’m wrong) and I’m genuinely curious on their business model, cuz thry are like 2 or 3 times cheaper than lime and all the US scooters. Its weird.
bomberman3r 18 दिन पहले
Like most startups they are not profitable from day 1. So what?
Ross S
Ross S 19 दिन पहले
This 28 days cant be right, who’s the source.... there are loads of ES1 ninebots still on streets of Venice..
Cam Moto
Cam Moto 19 दिन पहले
I fractured my tibia, fibula, and scapula riding scooters! Now my foot is partially paralyzed! It was fun though.
wewantbannerlord 20 दिन पहले
I hope they ban them all. just ride your bike cycles people stop wasting energy
A Somali guy
A Somali guy 15 दिन पहले
I am too poor for a bicycle
Downswing Player
Downswing Player 20 दिन पहले
They need to develop a lake proof/fire proof scooter.
daytoday eighty eighty
daytoday eighty eighty 18 दिन पहले
Stab proof
888kham 20 दिन पहले
Awesome! Cheap used scooters we could buy when they all go out of business.
Aon Lazio
Aon Lazio 21 दिन पहले
We need to flood even more scooters
marques ingram
marques ingram 21 दिन पहले
I love having access to the scooters here in Charlotte. A lot of us use them in the city to commute to out offices from our cars in remote parking lots.
KamiNoKaze 21 दिन पहले
wait they just threw them away? they didnt strip them for parts??
ROSE Leather Crafts
ROSE Leather Crafts 22 दिन पहले
Then Boosted Rev comes along. Just admit it this is the future of transport.
regaeontop 22 दिन पहले
Is this true???? I hope so!
Michael Lee
Michael Lee 22 दिन पहले
Regardless of whether or not these scooter sharing businesses are good or bad, people destroying these scooters should be ashamed of themselves. No matter how “right” you think you are, destroying things are childish and stupid; it is not entertaining at all.
Vittorio Pirra
Vittorio Pirra 23 दिन पहले
I just used one the other day in Milan (in italy we don't have that many of them) ; love the idea , makes no sense the business model: 20 min ride in the city centre costed me short of 4 euro when a metro ticket it's 1,5. Sure it's way more fun but the economics don't add up. When you consider that if you live in the city and you need a "something" to commute 15 km a day that would cost you say 8 euro\day that means that it would only take you around 50 days to repay you the purchase of your own xiaomi 365 , which if used with bit of brain lasts way longer ( a friend has got his one since more than a year, uses it regulary and didn't have a single problem so far). So the whole discussion it's a no brainer , if you use it regulary just buy one , if you rent it to non regulars than as you say the business model it isn't working.
Hung Tang
Hung Tang 23 दिन पहले
Good where I want to buy
NPC #34254334 Response:
NPC #34254334 Response: 23 दिन पहले
What is the problem? Maybe it is only the fact they are parked outside? Maybe people should just buy 1 themselves?
Jon Sackett
Jon Sackett 23 दिन पहले
I don't think their in-house scooters would really be more expensive. They're paying up-front for the production facilities and R&D, but they're avoiding buying at a markup by doing it all in-house. If their scooters are actually better it's still entirely possible for them to be cheaper or the same price as the Xiaomi and Segway Ninebot options just on the basis that they're paying material and labor costs without having to pay for shipping costs and markups at both the production and shipping levels. They also avoid import taxes and local taxes on the scooters by doing it all in-house.
TechMyLifeVideo 24 दिन पहले
Uber doesn’t work either. Drivers don’t factor reducing the life of their car.
Intelligence Injection
Intelligence Injection 23 दिन पहले
TechMyLifeVideo omg all the investors and business analysts are dumbasses, none of them know they are doing something that doesn’t work
Ben Minne
Ben Minne 24 दिन पहले
According to calculations a broken scooter is worth $0?
Cristian Proust
Cristian Proust 19 दिन पहले
Journalist know zero about engineering.
Roberto Carlos
Roberto Carlos 26 दिन पहले
Those are some expensive scooters
Ocyanos 26 दिन पहले
Tel Aviv, its realy good you dont need texi or somthing
Castro 323
Castro 323 26 दिन पहले
I own a electric scooter Best purchase ever So fun
Castro 323
Castro 323 21 दिन पहले
@Elliot אור אליוט the u scooter
Elliot אור אליוט
Elliot אור אליוט 21 दिन पहले
Hey Castro which one you bought?
JESSEverything 26 दिन पहले
I'm sorry, but a scooter only lasting 28 days doesn't pass the common sense test.
Todd P
Todd P 26 दिन पहले
If they only last 28 days that means that they are colossal pieces of junk
Shadow X
Shadow X 26 दिन पहले
Those scooters probably cost 10 dollars to make in China...those figures the company wants you to see
Коля Зайцев
Коля Зайцев 27 दिन पहले
Who the heck is this info for?!
Cole M
Cole M 27 दिन पहले
What a waste of our planet
Nobzu 27 दिन पहले
idiots dumping scooters to lake or destroying them otherwise don't realize that they will pay for it sooner or later for example. insurance money. police investigation etc. what a stupid people are lying out there.
Niska Hanye
Niska Hanye 27 दिन पहले
I feel bad for the scooters
TheLord67 27 दिन पहले
Lol no need for scooter sharing if you purchased and actually own one xD
Dru 1
Dru 1 6 दिन पहले
Can’t wait to get mine
PiotrHu 28 दिन पहले
Having electric scooters that last 6 months would be satisfying ? OMG, the planet is definitely screwed.
NPC #34254334 Response:
NPC #34254334 Response: 23 दिन पहले
We are talking about rentals...
Gil Duma
Gil Duma 28 दिन पहले
Ride-sharing companies don't need a better scooter. What they need is to make their riders ACCOUNTABLE.
KTL 29 दिन पहले
This business model would never work in murica, your country is loaded with idiots that do not respect what's not theirs. This is why 3:10 exist, and what's more, your country is in a time where this behaviour is encouraged.
Mindaugas 29 दिन पहले
Weal helpet? LOOOL how lame you have to be to wear helpmet with scooter?
IsYitzach 29 दिन पहले
So basically, the ride share companies are suffering from tragedy of the commons.
sor3999 29 दिन पहले
A shared resource doesn’t last. See? Communism doesn’t work.
JHONSON MOJICA 29 दिन पहले
If a scooter hits your car, you better call the police and get the riders info, because the scooter company wont make themselves responsible for the damage on your vehicle at the very least take the scooter because the pesons info is in the scooter computer.
Brandon Harris
Brandon Harris 29 दिन पहले
I mean . . . just buy a scooter if you want one. I wouldn't rent one, but I'd def ride one that I owned.
jackrush 122
jackrush 122 28 दिन पहले
Not many people have money to buy just like how people just rent instead of buying a house because they can't afford one
Lukas Hebrank
Lukas Hebrank 29 दिन पहले
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Skull Fucker
Skull Fucker महीने पहले
The rail the rail the rail the rail the rail the rail the rail the rail the rail the rail the rail.
Cox Freight
Cox Freight महीने पहले
L.A. makes up for all states lol 😂
Daddy Herbs
Daddy Herbs महीने पहले
*boosted has entered the chat*
Ola K
Ola K महीने पहले
Thank you for spreading this.. I could see this from day one.
Random Guy
Random Guy दिन पहले
I think anyone with any sense could see this. Leaving them out in the open all day long, that alone, is a very bad idea. At least give them a shed to sit in.
Nick P.
Nick P. महीने पहले
So making millions of scooters with an expected life span of 6 months is the way forward? Where will these be dumped when passed their lifes? India/Bangladesh? Africa?
Lucas Oviedo
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here comes Boosted Rev !
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